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Post by rhi'smummy Fri Mar 27, 2009 5:36 pm

Although Rhianna is only just over 2, I'm thinking about her schooling, and I've been considering home schooling her. The schools round here aren't great, but they're not terrible either, but I just think kids do much better 1 on 1, going at thier pace, doing what interests them, rather than in a room full of kids going at the pace of the slowest one in the room, doing whats next on the list.
There's a big home ed. comunity round here, so she'd have lots of social interaction with other kids, but instead of them all being her age they'd be all ages, which I see as a posative. With the way testing is going kids of younger and younger ages are expected to pass test and reach certain levels which just puts more pressure on the teachers.
I've mentioned it several times to DH, but today I asked him outright what he thought. He wasn't very keen. He said he'd let me do it if I wanted, but he doesn't want to teach her, I said it'd just be like helping her with her homework, but he wasn't convinced. I think it's really that he asumed once she goes to school, I'll go back to work full time and life will get back to 'normal'.
Theres a nice mix of mums on here with various parenting styles, and I'm just wondering if any of you have considered home schooling, or if any of you feel its not a good idea?
We've still got 18 months till we have to decide, but its a subject often discussed with my mummy friends, schooling that is, not home schooling. One little boy started preschool the week he turned 2, it just seems far too young to me.
Anyway I'm interested in your thoughts.
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Post by angpixi Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:00 pm

I love the idea of home schooling and if i had my time round again i would do it with all of mine, obviously it would need to be done in the right situation and ive never had that. There are pros and cons for both ways of learning, i would depend what was right for your circumstances. I know alot of people who have been home schooled/ home school their children and for the most part its been a very positive experience, but i think you have to be aware of what it entails before you go ahead.
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Post by kay Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:16 pm

It isnt something that would work for me, but i understand why people choose to do so.
We have a very small village school - there are 60 children in total (inc playgroup) ranging from 2-7 years old. There are 12 to a class, with 2 teachers per class.
Jamie is in reception and is very advanced for his age, and the teachers are pushing him and working him to his limits - he is not being held back at all. (for example, the children start to learn to read / spell words, they start at level 1 through to 18, then progress to books. Jamie is well into the books, whereas some of his class are not even at level 1 yet).
I sent both Jamie and Tyler to the playgroup in the school for a couple of mornings a week when they were 2 1/2, and they both enjoyed it, and gained good friends that they then moved into nursery with at 3, and reception at 4 1/2.

Im sure legally you dont have to send your child until the term they are 5 scratch though would have to check on that one. That means they would skip playschool and nursery, although I am glad I sent mine earlier so that they had firm friends before going full time, and they were familiar with the school and the teachers.

Hope this gives a bit of insight into the other side of the coin for you :aww:
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Post by Mervs Mum Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:13 pm

I agree kids benefit from one on one teaching at certain times and for certain things but there are also many benefits to them being part of a group when learning too. I suppose that's why I wanted some kind of mid way with my eldest and she went to a small independant school which for me, gave her the best of both worlds. It was a very 'homely' environment but with 'traditional' school values.

I'm not sure what your background is Mary, but my husband and I are both in education. A class certainly shouldnt be moving at the pace of the slowest child - thats not how good teaching works. You also mentioned testing as an issue and while I agree it can be an issue, I think we are going to see a trend to move away from the formal testing that you're probably thinking of. This year there will be no 'SATS' testing at the end of Key Stage 3 (age 14) and I think that will quickly be the case for the KS2 and KS1 (junior and infants).

For me personally, it wouldnt be an option - I dont know what the legalities are of home schooling. I've only ever come across one child who was home schooled. She came to me to sit a GCSE exam. She may well have had poor social skills had she been in main stream education but I do remember thinking how she was like a fish out of water. Her mother was glued to her all the time she was with me. Her work though was of a very high standard - I think she got an A*.
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Post by rhi'smummy Sat Mar 28, 2009 8:00 am

A small village school sounds perfect, if I had one of those near me I wouldn't think twice. Unfortunately there are several largish schools round here, I say large only because when I drive past there are so many kids and mums leaving, and I know from speaking to some mums, there's no guarante they will get to go to the same school as thier friends. I know a mum who lives in a small comunity called Whitley, her son goes to the nursey there but when he goes to primary he could be sent to any one of 3, miles away.
Legaly kids need to be educated, but thats as far as it goes, theres no standard that needs to be met, or who can teach them.
As there are quite a few families round here that home school already, Rhianna would get to mix with lots of other kids, so she would get the social side too.
I think when most people think of home schooled kids you tend to think of kids who've been taken out of school because of bullying or something similar, and that can be why they are sometimes shy and dont mix well, but then again there are plenty of kids in schools like that too.
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Post by emmiesmummy Sat Mar 28, 2009 8:05 am

Mary I think you can home school for primary age but i think once they are off an age for bigger school so about 11 they are legally bound to state school but you would need to check. My friend looked into it for her children & said as long as you had a support network in your area it was perfectly ok. Check out the web and see if you have a group set up they should also give you some advice.

On a personal note it wouldnt be for me,if they didnt do well id blame myself forever & im not so bright & they would be asking things i just couldnt help with.

Good luck.
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Post by Squiglet Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:51 am

I would love to home school my girls. Tia has her very special educational needs, and lil miss is very advanced, so I'd like to give her one to one where she would be free to excell at her speed. Also socially, I always struggled at school so I don't think the school enviornment is very good to nuture sensitive souls.

Of course, for us, financially its just not possible. I HAVE to work there is no option, so unfortunately there are no options for homeschooling.

There are plenty of websites for this and if you have a good homeschooling community who you can interact with, then this is a vital part of it. Good luck.
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Post by donna4 Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:38 pm

i do like the idea of home schooling but id need educating frst before lo lol!
but i think its very important they mix with other children on a daily basis, which you say they do so think its a great idea go for it. kiera and emilie both started nursery when they were 8/9 months for one afternoon a week and iv never regreted it its done them so much good socialy and educational wise. im even going to send blake for a couple of hrs on a wednesday when hes 12/ 14 mths i think they (well my kids do) need that space away as theres 4 of them they not bickering at each other and meet new children my girls love being at nursery plus i can get stuff done at home.
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Post by ldnug Mon Mar 30, 2009 7:00 pm

rhi'smummy wrote: but I just think kids do much better 1 on 1, going at thier pace, doing what interests them, rather than in a room full of kids going at the pace of the slowest one in the room, doing whats next on the list.


As a teacher I do actually find this worrying - is this what parents think teachers do? (I was slightly offended at first)

I have taught from Reception to year 2 and I can assure you that children have a curriclum that is tailored to their needs. I have year one children who are working at the P levels and those who are working into level 2 (Gifted and Talented children) - they are supported and extended as they need to be.

The testing of children is done in a very low key way and it is more about ensuring progress than putting pressure on the pupils.

I can see why some parents choose to home school but the social skills would be my biggest concern, followed by the resources that your child would have access to in mainstream school. The advancing technologies would cost a fortune to have at home, not to mention the range of books, PE equipment, musical instruments etc...

You mention that there is a wide range of parenting styles but what about subject expertise?

I think you should be fully aware of the breadth of the national curriculum and the key aspects of learning before embarking on this - particularly if you see Rhianna going to mainstream at some point in the future so she is fully prepared.
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Post by rhi'smummy Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:26 am

I'm really sorry, I didn't mean to offend, I think I worded it wrong. I'm thinking back to when I was at comprehensive school, especially my maths class, which I loved and was quite good at. I had 2 other friends in that class and we used to finish our work within the 1st ½ of the lesson and then had nothing to do for the next as we couldn't go on to the next bit till every one was ready. My sister did her pc studdies GSCE in one year because she was in a small class and they were all good at it so did it at the rate they could, not the rate they were scheduled to do it in. I know thats a few years ago, and classes were bigger then, but thats what I based that coment on.
At the moment I'm thinking about Rhianna at age 4 maybe up to 11 and then see how we go from there. I dont think you need to be highly educated at that age, I'm happy to learn along with her, and we can get the national curriculum to foolow the same as she would in school.
I can see your point about 'the advancing technologies would cost a fortune
to have at home, not to mention the range of books, PE equipment,
musical instruments etc...' although I think that kind of depends on the school and parents, I didn't learn any musical instrument, but my parents had to buy a guitar and flute for my brother and sister. In a big home ed comunity I'm sure I would find someone who could teach an instrument, and the library I'm sure would have a plenty big enough range of books.
I'm not trying to be argumentative, its post's like yours I was after as well as mums opinions. Its reasons for and against I need to think about, and so far I think there are more in favour of home ed, at least up to a certain age.
Anyway, we're off to the zoo now, so have a fun week
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Post by kay Tue Mar 31, 2009 1:43 pm

I'm not trying to be argumentative, its post's like yours I was after as well as mums opinions

And thats what we are here for! and a healthy debate is good!

ldnug and Mervsmum are both teachers, so can give a good insight into the school side of it, and give you practical things to think of, such as the costs and the varying degree of the curriculum.

I, and probably most of the others, can give you a personal opinion and give you what our experiences are.

Like I said, school works for us, and i wouldnt want it any other way, but i can see why some parents choose to home school.

Hope you have had a good day at the zoo :aww:
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Post by Natasha Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:27 pm

I am all for homeschooling, I haven't met any or spoke to any homeschool parents that didn't get great results out of their children. Very well adapted children and there are some great clubs etc that go on so all other homeschoolers meet up in the week to keep their children socialised.

For me I wouldn't, I don't believe I am capable of teaching my children what they need to know, and there are some fantastic schools in my area with high scores so I know my child will have a brilliant education.

Mine and OHs friend is a school teacher and so was OHs mum. They would pretty much say what ldnug has said about it, and work or have worked in schools where 'bright' or children 'ahead' didn't get held back.

BUT I know there are schools with awful reputations, children not getting to their full potential because of poor teaching (which does go on) but mainly because of social background and deprived areas. If I was able to home school and my child had no option but to goto a deprived underachieving school I would certainly consider homeschooling 100%
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Post by ldnug Wed Apr 01, 2009 6:09 pm

Mary - you honestly didn't offend me - It was my first impression when I read it but then I could see where you were coming from!

I can appreciate why you would want to home school - if the schools in my area were poor i probably would but if the schools are good they can offer much more than homeschooling I personally believe.

In response to the musial instruments I wasn't referring to learning one - it was more the range of instruments that the children have access to form a variety of cultures and instrument groups.

I think as long as you are prepared to provide a variety of enrichment activities to Rhianna's homeschooling she will be well rounded and socaiable.

There are sites to access the primary national strategy which is the curriculum for Literacy and Numeracy and there is a site for the EYFS curriculum aswell. If you follow these then Rhianna should be well prepared academically for a transition to mainstream at 11.

If you do decide on this route I would be quite happy to point you in the right direction and offer tips if that would be of use.

Good luck whatever you decide. :aww:
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