White mouth!

Brody has white patches all over his tongue and insides of his lips and cheeks! Someone told me it could be thrush but I have absolutely no idea I thought only younger babies got it! I really am clueless!
Would there be any other symptoms?

I thought I'd ask the pros!

It is thrush, hun.

Do you exprience any pain while bf him?

You should treat him and yourself asap.
There is a few ways of doing it. I would recommend starting with seing your doctor and he/she is most likely to prescribe Nystan http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/medicines/100003722.html
to treat Brody's mouth.

But there is few ways to do it at home, with checked and working methods.
It can be Gentian Violet
http://www.kellymom.com/newman/06gentian_violet.html
Will give Brody purple mouth thou, quite funny view!
http://www.breastfeed-essentials.com/gvstains.html - how to treat Gentian stains;

My reservations with beginning with the above medications are that the Nystatin liquid contains sugar to make it palatable enough that baby will swallow it. However, yeast feeds on sugar. This may be the reason why it is often not effective. Gentian Violet is effective, but stains skin purple for several days. I have some lovely photos of my twins with purple faces! Diflucan is very effective, but can cause intestinal distress in mom and/or baby. For these reasons, I prefer to begin with Grapefruit Seed Extract as the first line of defense. I have found that the use of Grapefruit Seed Extract as recommended almost always brings rapid relief and an elimination of the yeast imbalance.
Grapefruit Seed Extract is a broad-spectrum antimicrobial compound synthesized from the seeds and pulp of grapefruit. It is an extremely potent and effective broad-spectrum bactericide, fungicide, antiviral and antiparasitic compound. Tests have shown that GSE is dramatically more effective than Colloidal Silver, Iodine, Tea Tree Oil and Clorox bleach against five common microorganisms. In studies performed by Dr. John Mainarich of Bio-Research Laboratories in Redmond, WA, samples of each of the common antimicrobials or sanitizing agents were evaluated for effectiveness against Candida albicans, Staphylococcus aureus, Salmonella typhi, Streptococcus faecium and E. coli. The other antimicrobials tested were considerably less effective than the GSE.
GSE is extremely effective in the treatment of thrush. I also find it to be the easiest place to start. If used diligently, it typically will clear up thrush within a couple of days.
Treatment of thrush with GSE

• Make a mixture of 10 drops of Citricidal Grapefruit Seed Extract to one ounce of water. The use of distilled water to make your solution is very important. The chemicals placed in your local tap water to kill bacteria can reduce the effectiveness of the active ingredients in GSE.
  

• IF thrush is not markedly improved by the second day, increase the mixture to 15, or even 20 drops of GSE per one ounce of distilled water. If after reaching up to at least 20, and a full day of hourly treatment with it, you see no improvement, I would consider using Diflucan. If you are prescribed Diflucan, continue to treat topically with GSE during the course of treatment.
  
  
• Use this solution with an absorbent swab on mom's nipples and baby's mouth once every hour during all waking hours. Swab baby's mouth prior to nursing and mom's nipples after nursing. Applying it to baby's mouth prior to nursing will help them to avoid the possibility of baby associating the bitter taste with nursing.
  

• If diaper area is affected, put the same strength solution into a spray bottle or swab as above at every diaper change.
  
  
• If the infection is particularly rampant or you are having difficulty getting rid of it, mom may need to take acidophilus or GSE capsules to get rid of it systemically.
  
  
• GSE solution can also be used in laundry or as a surface cleaner to kill yeast hiding and waiting to multiply again.
  
  
• It may be necessary for Mom to eliminate sugar from her diet until the yeast infection is gone.
  

http://www.drjaygordon.com/development/bf/thrush.asp
You might want to moisturise nipples more often while using GSE, because it tends to leave skin bit dry.

HTH

Just please remember, you beed treatent too, regardess do you have symptops or not.

You will nedd to wash all Brody's toys in hot soapy water with splash of vinegar.

Definately sounds like thrush - both mine had it - exactly same symptoms.
Can only re-emphasise what Katie said - and you need treating too as priority :aww:

Aww thanks girls I knew I could count on you for answers! What would I do without you eh? :aww:

I have no pain at all now but a couple of days ago had strange pains towards my armpits! Could that be something to do with it?

Will get an appointment in the morning! None left this afternoon!

Thanks again! :aww:

Yes definatly see docs as soon as!

Goodluck

I hope it clears soon x

Just to add some gps think that women can not get thrush on their nipples and will not treat it.
So depending on what your gp is like it might be worth printing some info off and taking it with you.

The pain you are experiencing could be thrush it can cause deep pain in the breasts.

:aww: really hope you get this treated quickly for you and Brody

Nichola

Thanks again!

Nichola it all depends on who I get to see! It's a miracle to actually get an appointment at our docs! Hopefully it will be a decent one!

Jools, poor you...

I would add some yogurt to diet too, will not hurt but will help friendly bacteria help the nasty yeasts.

You could try to cut refined sugar, all yeast food, like bread, bear, wine, etc, all fungi too. There is a little proven research on it, but many mothers try that and thrush is easy to treat and doesn't come back so often. Those little probiotic drinks are great with helping to combat yeasty monster too!

Aww thanks alot you always have great advice! :aww:

How is it going Julie? have you been to the doctors yet?

Ooooh sorry I forgot to update!

Well Kev rang the docs there were no appointments so the doctor spoke to him for ages and said to go up to pick up a prescription! So... we went up and guess what? Some drops for Brody (Nystan) but that's it!

Well we got home and had a look and it had disappeared!!! Is it possible for it to clear up on it's own?! I was surprised! I keep checking but there's nothing there now!

hmmmmmm how strange. i dont know much about it hun tho so am not much good. :aww:

Well it's back Should have known it wouldn't just dissapear! It doesn't seem to be bothering him - should it?

The doctor said to go if the drops don't work so it looks like I'll be there on Monday!

My nipples are very dry and cracked and sore too!

Awww, hun!!!!
Get the Gentian Violet, https://breastbuddies.forumotion.com/Resource-centre-f24/Thrush-treatmentGENTIAN-VIOLET-GSE-etc-t618.htm and follow as advised. It will work for your nipples and Brody's mouth. In second post there is few tips how to avoid stains...Hw will be funky looking for a while, all purple mouth, but GV works beautifuly!!!
For cracked nipples...hm...You ever heard of APNO?
http://www.breastfeed-essentials.com/thrush.html#APNO . Just write down ingredients and go to your pharmacy and they should make it for you. It works like magic, Jools!


ps, love new picture in you avi!

Aww thanks again hun I will go hunting for some today! Hope I can find some! :aww:

I forgot to say how outrageous it is for gp to give prescription only for child. Its like they assume you are ot bf and you can boil teats off and all will be fine.
Well, you could try to rinse your nipples with water with vinegar in it, to help stop thrush to spread, but if they are sore and cracked it might hurt a bit. But still works.

That's just it-Kev explained to them I was breastfeeding too!
I will have a go with the vinegar and water idea I'll try anything! I'll just grit my teeth!

I took some pictures of Brody's mouth earlier they are a bit blurry

oh, dear...it looks really not good, hun! :aww:

But what a smile!!He is so cute, little cheeky monkey!

Well I went all over trying to find it an Saturday! The first 3 places were shut and when I finally found one open the woman said dhe hasn't seen it in years!

So I've kept on with the drops and keeping my nipples clean with water and vinegar and so far so good the white has all gone but I'm keeping an eye on it as it came back last time!

They are joking, hun...lol, haven't seen GV in years???

Bad cop wrote:They are joking, hun...lol, haven't seen GV in years???

I know! The first woman didn't even have a clue what it was! It's ridiculous!